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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Indeed. It looks like modified/synthetic protein has been the cause of many new illnesses since around 1960... I first realized that, when I contemplated the common denominator between Lyme, arthritis, and peanut allergy:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/what-do-peanut-allergy-lyme-and-arthritis

Later, I identified 13 main sources of such conditions:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/an-unlikely-synthesis-a-comprehensive

It would be important to implement LNPs into the investigations as well, but those don't seem to happen...

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

I see the protein as the result of cell damage, not the cause. Same with prion disease... The prions/misfolded proteins are a result of damage caused by toxins etc. in the case of LNPs, they have known that they accumulate in the spleen and liver, leading to reduction in the ability to do garbage collection. LNPs, cell debris, and other junk pile up and cause more and more damage.

It explains why even "viruses" have genetic codes that come from our own genome. Many think that shows that our genome got code from viruses. What if whatever they're calling viruses are our own damaged cells?

Control studies show that with or without viruses, the culturing process used leads to the same "viral" particles.

https://dpl003.substack.com/p/the-most-comprehensive-control-studies

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Yes, the protein damage looks like one of the results, and confusingly enough, it can be caused by numerous things…

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toolate's avatar

One question would be:

If the sorts of problems that arise with the infection itself and the vaccine are similar then it points elsewhere than the lipids,no?

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

COVID infection?

How many people you know who didn't get the shots or flu shot have those issues?

In 2018 my father got low oxygen and the other COVID like symptoms persistent cough etc....

He got a flu shot a month before. 2018 also happened to be a big flu year.

Was it the flu or the flu shots?

With COVID, there's also another factor besides the shots. If they went to the hospital or a doctor, they could have been offered toxic remdesevir.... Not to mention the ventilators...

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toolate's avatar

I know some...long COVID sufferers

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Rebal's avatar

I know some too, who never had confidence. They did get the "cure" though. I still see many suffering. Heart attacks. Mainly cancers and parkinson like symptoms. Or worsened . I can't help but wonder if all these jabs hastened her, a client of mine's, disease. W a new stem cells therapy, her body became very rigid and painfully and she shook hard from head to toe. Even after hours of us pulling the infusion.

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toolate's avatar

That we are not looking at this tells me how many limited hangouts there likely are

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Gabriella's avatar

There is also the pseuderadine ingredient in the Con-vid shots also that know one is talking about. Only Dr. David Martin. He states this ingredient causes cancer

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PamelaDrew's avatar

Great references.. truth is mRNA transfection in its most perfect form was known to provoke an extreme immune system response to novel or non-self proteins and LNP failed delivery mechanism for cancer therapy because the distribution was totally uncontrollable. You'll love this video with Pieter Cullis on his pre-Nobel Prize for LNP science icons tour w comments by brilliant biology teacher and recovering acadamagician Jay Couey.

https://stream.gigaohm.bio/w/cF8aFTv2225KK3m95JbHvt

https://rumble.com/v3q5vbq-2023-10-17-pieter-cullis-2022-study-hall-16-oct-2023-brief-twitch1953665426.html?mref=n1xa&mrefc=6

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Tsubion's avatar

I believe this is the most sane, sanguine, salient response to the mysteries contained in the jibby jab witches brew. There was a shit ton of academic waffle, data sets, mRNA science and technology propaganda to wade through in 2020 for anyone that was that way inclined. Since I'm not, I saved myself the trouble of being led down those dead ends full of red herrings. Instinct and sticking to what was more or less already proven cause and effect i.e. the lipid nanoparticle narrative seemed like the most common sense path at that time although I have no real idea that these particles work in the way suggested either. I guess there's a study somewhere but i don't really trust those anymore.

On the nanotech or graphene question, I remember some theoretical commentary on that issue in 2020 saying that such material would be biodegradable and flushed out via the usual methods which goes against the claims of the fantasists (tech entrepreneurs) that wanted this tech to magically accumulate in the body and take up positions in all the right places for connectivity with the grid. At this point, I'm wondering if the nanolipids (again if they even exist and work as claimed) are broken down and flushed out in the same way that most other unwanted material is. That said, we all know that fat (lipids) can build up in the body and gets stored until extreme measures have to be employed to remove it. Maybe this happens to the nanolipids too.

I have to say that I'm not seeing any further issues among the jibby jabbed after around 2022. Everything is pretty much back to normal and the injected are having a wonderful summer so far. Maybe the chronically damaged are hidden away from view but I'm really not seeing anything that stands out... for the time being.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

From what I understand the LNPs are a plastic like thing.

Perhaps they're made of some kind of fats more related to petroleum than organic?

I have yet to see how they are supposed to break apart and "deliver" the mRNA payload... Perhaps they do break apart but the leftovers is what built up?

Oh shit, I didn't know you were jabbed!

I do think the body eliminates them but it's a slow process. It also depends on which shot you got. It seems some were weak, others were strong.

I think the side effects are mostly within a year or so.

My coworker started to have swelling in his hand and knee which subsided after a few months. He's been fine since, luckily the damage wasn't permanent, though his knee has still been weak but healing.

I remember way back some doctors saying that pine tree teaor something was helpful to get rid of the crap.

Turpentine is the solvent from the pine tree and castor oil is another good solvent for the body.

https://www.thedetoxdudes.com/posts/turpentine-castor-oil-atom-bomb-for-parasites

I don't take it internally though. I apply it to my skin where I have wounds. Castor oil is also good for hair growth so I put it on my hairline.

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Tsubion's avatar

I'm not jabbed but pretty much everyone around me is and I watch them closely for any odd behavior! I did do the pine needle tea for quite a while in response to the shedding talk but I don't worry about that anymore either.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

I'm not worried about shedding. Whatever from the jabs that comes out through their lungs and skin is tiny.

Also it's not being injected directly into my body, bypassing digestion, mucus, etc.

I work around mostly jabbed people and didn't notice a difference.

A weird story though, at the time I had to test weekly, my friend an hour away got sick around the same time (which got a positive result). We both had the sniffles and sore throat that went away in a day.

I'm not sure but it could have been the weather or whatever the heck crap is in the air.

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Tsubion's avatar

Good point about the delivery methods. Remember all the talk about introducing "vaccine" products via other channels, through the food supply, water, etc. I wonder if that's even feasible. Isn't the claim that poultry are "vaccinated" and given antibiotics in their feed. I even wonder if that really does anything or if it's all just one big con and farmers are bullied into going along to get along.

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J. Harris's avatar

I believe in the shedding as I’ve been greatly affected. All my clients are vaxxed. Some more boosted than others. As a house cleaner I breathe in the dead skin sheds dusting and vacuuming. I’ve got very sick after clients have been boosted. So what could be the cause?!?

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

I've not experienced shedding but it could be many factors like pheromones. The key is to not be worried about it.

I wasn't worried because I know the reason why vaccines can be dangerous is because they're directly injected into your body. Plus inhaling or ingesting things usually get blocked by the body unlike in injections!

Dust, smells, particles are a tiny tiny fraction of what they got which is still stuck in them or has been eliminated by many means here and there.

I guess you gotta consider that worry itself can make you sicker. That's how I'd handle your situation. Masks can only do so much and they induce other issues.

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J. Harris's avatar

I don’t worry or have a lot of stress. I just try my best at cleaning up the terrain of my body. I eliminated seed oils (The hateful 8), glyphosate-food, and get lots of sunshine whenever I can. My shedding experience still happens. I do have CIRS (chronic inflammatory response syndrome) confirmed with bloodwork including the HLA gene defect. Im highly sensitive to mold. Maybe the endotoxins produced by the gene therapy shots that get shed are what I’m reacting too? Anyhoot…it may also depend on who is still getting boosted. Although most of my clients are vaxxed not all are getting boosted. Some are “just” getting flu/shingles/rsv jabs.

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J. Harris's avatar

Thanks for your response.

I don’t wear a mask. I’m not C/flu vaxxed. Unfortunately, I am a product of 80s childhood vaccines and Standard American diet. Diagnosed with CIRS (chronic inflammatory response syndrome with the HLA gene defect for mold susceptibility). I eat as clean as possible for the last 5 years. Lots of sunshine without sunscreen. And I’ve done a ton of emotional healing. I don’t worry. I let that shit go!

Been on DMSO for nearly 2 weeks topically and orally. So we’ll see…

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Mary-Ann's avatar

Shedding is real!

https://web.archive.org/web/20210308053257/https://cdn.pfizer.com/pfizercom/2020-11/C4591001_Clinical_Protocol_Nov2020.pdf (Pages 67-69)

8.3.5. Exposure During Pregnancy or Breastfeeding, and Occupational Exposure

Exposure to the study intervention under study during pregnancy or breastfeeding and occupational exposure are reportable to Pfizer Safety within 24 hours of investigator awareness.

8.3.5.1. Exposure During Pregnancy

An EDP occurs if:

• A female participant is found to be pregnant while receiving or after discontinuing study intervention.

• A male participant who is receiving or has discontinued study intervention exposes a female partner prior to or around the time of conception.

• A female is found to be pregnant while being exposed or having been exposed to study intervention due to environmental exposure. Below are examples of environmental exposure during pregnancy:

• A female family member or healthcare provider reports that she is pregnant after having been exposed to the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact.

by inhalation or skin contact.

• A male family member or healthcare provider who has been exposed to the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact then exposes his female partner prior to or around the time of conception.

A male family member or healthcare provider who has been exposed to the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact then exposes his female partner prior to or around the time of conception.

HE IS EXPOSED BY INHALATION OR SKIN CONTACT AND THEN HE EXPOSES HIS PARTNER BY INHALATION OR SKIN CONTACT - and of course all those with whom he/she comes into contact - and THAT is NOT a virus, but toxic-chemical substances and nanotechnology, which is smaller than a hair and can of course be excreted by expiration/inhaltion and skin contact!!!!!!

And this phenomenon has always been the case - we can read here:

https://maryann255.substack.com/p/the-truth-is-always-on-the-other-95e

‼️(through inhalation, ingestion, injection, skin contact etc.)‼️

And one thing should also be clear to everyone, not everyone reacts the same way to chemical substances or nanotech/nanoparticles, quite apart from the fact that there were different batches - and no one can say what, in what batch and how much chemical substances and nanoparticles were ultimately inside!!!

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SwissGentleman's avatar

I heard compelling stories about shedding cases. If you are afraid of it, yuo may think of trying what the author mentions for NLP plus the McCullough spike detox protocol and ivermectin

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

If 50%+ of people were jabbed, why isn't this more common?

My sister has chemical sensitivity for example but she didn't seem to notice an oxy cleaner she was using which made me feel sick lol.

In other words, some people get sick from fear.

There's tons of fear that people can get "infected" by whatever pseudo tech big pharma claims works.

The history is clear ... The lipids caused issues, even before mRNA or whatever self replicating thing was claimed.

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Deanna Kline's avatar

I just had a friend diagnosed with peri and myocarditis who only took first 3 in 21. Her cardiologist told her it was jabs. She was a healthy athlete before jabs, then scar tissue from old appy exploded, surgery, joint pains and sciatica and rashes.. and recently the myo.

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Deanna Kline's avatar

thanks she is well improved and feeling great after starting my advice when she told me of her ills; I treat ppl nearly daily

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

Interesting link. Thanks.

Seems like the major issues they found were when they combine it with stem cells.

I suppose because stem cells are foreign to the body and can be rejected by the body like a transplant.

I've wondered about stem cell therapy but it's very iffy and the few people I knew that did the therapy didn't get much help from it.

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RebeccaccebeR's avatar

I just discovered your stack. I can’t wait to read more.

I would like to chat with you about the LNP casings/shells and share some insight and images/videos of what I have seen under my microscope.

<div class="substack-post-embed"><p lang="en">Microtechnology, synthetic biology and me! by RebeccaccebeR</p><p>Shocking comparisons…</p><a data-post-link href="https://rebeccacceber.substack.com/p/microtechnology-synthetic-biology">Read on Substack</a></div><script async src="https://substack.com/embedjs/embed.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Rebal's avatar

Thank you, for spelling that out. You are right, about lnp. Any time we are forcing something into our body systems, especially something as bulky as lip, look for some reaction. Our bodies were made to be pretty darned smart.

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Ste's avatar

I'm not scientific in nature and do not pretend to have a good grasp on the subject. Are you basically stating that even if one were exposed to mRNA once that this wouldn't be enough on its own to be an issue?

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

I don't see how besides clogging the body with junk it works at all.

They claim a lot of things but I think it's just BS pseudoscience.

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toolate's avatar

Were they treating Gilberts disease? And the first dose was not problematic but subsequent doses were highly problematic so it got pulled?

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carll's avatar

Carbon nanoparticles or GO = Graphene oxide. Based on pubmed research these Carbon structures were used in the mrna vaccines. Probably varied how much in each batchs

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

Ok. Do we know that it was in the shots way back when moderna was having issues with the lipids?

I haven't seen that info.

I do know that with past vaccines the primary issue is aluminum. But with these lipid shots, they don't need to use metal which is easily tested for, as the lipids are forms of fat, albeit much more like plastic.

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Ste's avatar

https://waynelusvardi.substack.com/p/the-ongoing-dupergy-about-non-existent

I think we've all been duped regarding graphene oxide.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

I agree. thanks for the link!

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mejbcart's avatar

Here an explanation WHAT NVX-CoV2373 is, from wiki:

has been described as both a protein subunit vaccine[48][49] and a virus-like particle vaccine,[50][51] although the producers call it a "recombinant nanoparticle vaccine".[52]

that SPIKE PROTEIN subunit in NVX is the ENTIRE SPIKE, IDENTICAL to the one which is produced in human bodies after Pfizer and Moderna mod mRNA shots. Thus the side effects of the SPIKE PROTEIN are IDENTICAL in all covid shots, including all sorts of heart/blood issues.

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Mary-Ann's avatar

This so-called theory as you call it such as graphene and nanotechnology is not a theory!

https://maryann255.substack.com/p/what-we-know-even-if-this-is-repeatedly

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

My point was that if the LNP base is toxic, graphene and other things are distractions.

It's like with past vaccines.

They blamed sv40 and other things for why people got sick from some past shots.

But we know that those shots use adjuvants with aluminum and toxic preservatives like fomedahyde..

Injecting anything foreign into the body causes issues because it bypasses our natural defenses of ingestion.

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Mary-Ann's avatar

That was not a distraction, because if you had read/listened to the link above in full, you would know that there are exactly the same problems with graphene oxide and that it is confirmed that exactly THAT was used - and the bottom line is that no one can say what was actually in the various batches and will be in other toxic--chemical substances in the future!!! If you scroll down here, you can see how high the poisoning potential was in the individual batches!!!

https://maryann255.substack.com/p/the-truth-is-always-on-the-other-610

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SwissGentleman's avatar

Thank you for that brilliant article including the practical detox suggestions.

You make a compelling argument about LNPs as a key toxic agent. However, it is not clear to me why you believe that the spike could not get out of the NLP (and therefore does not represent a major threat too) Dr McCullough mentions that there are testes for spike proteins and that they can differentiate between the one of the virus and the one of the "jab", So apparently the jab contains spikes - either in NLP or outside, either as mRNA or possibly outright as spikes. Also, if I remember well I think that I heard of studies that demonstrated the toxicity of the spike, particularly on vascular level (clotting, myocarditis). So is is not likely an explosive "cocktail" of deadly agents (NLP, spike, mrna, potentially graphene, SV40 or further hidden susbtances?

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

I don't know man. I think McCullough is full of bs or an idiot. He promoted this bird flu kit that had toxic Tamiflu in it.

Anyway on the merits of the spike being a distraction...

Before spike protein was an issue, the lipids were causing identical issues.

Also did you read the link where without mRNA the shots still caused myocarditis?!

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Tobin Owl's avatar

Rebecca, I'm intrigued by your work but I can't tell what you are showing in the images. Seems like bit of a write-up would help.

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RebeccaccebeR's avatar

I would add a narrative but I don’t usually know what it is! That said, sometimes I have actually matched samples (precisely, down to the tiny blue tendrils) with their peer reviewed literature and patents. If you have not seen it yet, you might find this slideshow of “shocking comparisons” worth watching:

https://open.substack.com/pub/rebeccacceber/p/microtechnology-synthetic-biology?r=8yw95&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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