Interesting. Love listening to McGilchrist and though I've never seen the series - it's now on my list.
"Why does society look up to and follow the limited view of number 1 over the big picture view of the hybrid? Why is number 1 in command?"
We've been pushed into that culturally - emphasis on the sciences, facts and stuff we can quantify while casting doubt on intuitive even imaginative - all that.
Think we're getting ready though, to see big changes there. Thanks.
Hey Rob (c137), well you know my view on the Battlestar Galactica reboot... a masterpiece for sure! (minus the constant saluting). This isn't a show for those who expect to be told "what to think". It is one of the most thought provoking series I've ever seen and most of the actors are brilliant. A person must be prepared to watch this series with their "brains turned on". (I believe that's why it never really "took off" when it was released) Everything from "vaccines", to cut-throat politics, to AI, to medical freedom, to "racism", to personal liberty, to bodily autonomy is included in this series and there are more parallels to our society than you or I could list on just a couple pages or a few comments. Thanks for writing about it from your point of view. :)
I saw the show when it came out but missed episodes as I was working different shifts at the time. This rewatch was an eye opener now as I know much more about things.
I prefer shows where the team faces the unknown without the home base. You mentioned Stargate Universe and there's another gem- Star Trek Voyager.
It's easier to be virtuous in SG1 and The Next Generation because they were still connected to society.
As for BSG...
When the president stopped her toxic cancer treatments, she was starting to get better and better. The doctor called that "rebound" as if getting better was not a sign of getting better 😂
Peer pressure unfortunately got her back on the toxic junk. 😢
I also found it interesting to see how Battlestar Pegasus became fascist as they kept isolated and afraid of the enemy. It reminds me of a certain genocidal ally today. The contrast between Pegasus and Galactica reminded me that society can be quite brutal in certain conditions, but it's not the default tendency.
Thanks Rob some great points, I listened recently to the Iain McGilchrist, Mattias Desmet conversation. There were some great points that relate directly to your article. One on belief bias that struck me was, "The left brain is looking out for something it already knows it wants and what it is." and "The left hemisphere creates a map a diagram a theoretical structure, thin, sparse devoid of complexity, of anything that makes it live. The right hemisphere is seeing the whole complex picture."
"As soon as you start to think of the universe to be one big machine one big mechanical system, which can be understood, manipulated and controlled in a rational way. As soon as you consider the world to be a machine the logical ultimate consequence is that this big machine has to be led by technical experts. We will become totalitarian if we do not change our world view."
Great commentary, thank you Rob. The boundaries of self-perception and consciousness / unconsciousness are utterly fascinating. That binary paradigm appears done. Neuroscience shows that the act of conscious implementation - a motor action potential and muscle contraction - (underpinned as it must be by an awareness of a decision) is PRECEDED by a coterie of utterly UNCONSCIOUS, silent, underlying processes of evaluation and decision making. We act out decisions whose origin remains unconscious.
The understanding of 'conscious' and 'unconscious', with the former appearing as a visible tip of an iceberg leads one to wonder then, just how deep does an individual's perception of reality extend (given the individual variation appears gigantic).
The daily, healthy, usual requirement for useful interaction between individuals requires a mutual co-operative agreement of perceived reality, while the insatiable lust of tyranny to 'control' another's perception so tightly appears maniacal and pathological. Tyranny then, is the action of spiritual, intellectual and emotional pathology.
We're presently surrounded by a degrading pathology, which must ultimately seal its own fate and demise. A pity so many have to endure the misery, destitution and absence of happiness and prosperity (yet again) before we reach a collective threshold of elevated actualisation, a transcendence if you will.
As for BattleStar Galactica, I ordered the entire box set from Australia a couple of weeks ago. I have watched it piecemeal several years ago. For reasons best known to the universe, I wanted to study and appreciate the series again more closely. ;-)
Caprica was good too and helps understand the idea of AI in a more human manner than the fake AI we got today 😂.
Both of those shows are the possible future we would have been in if we had a cheap and easy energy source. Sometimes I feel that we were lucky that scientific progress hit limits on things.
"On the other side of the situation is the whole brain reality based view. The left brain processes the data and the right brain sees the big picture. Both sides are important for survival because together they help one see reality as it is, not as one wants it to be." That'd be the male/right -female/left energies...or did I get that backwards?
I'm not sure if we can label them with male or female.
When I read McGilchrist, it helped me see that it's not necessary female or male but by the ways of seeing things.
He mentioned how birds use their left eye to scan the environment for threats but used the right eye to have exact precision to peck at seeds without damaging their beaks.
In nature, both sides serve together in both sexes to survive.
However in "good n plenty" times, there has been cases where baboons dominated and everything was about their "getting the numbers" (left brained obsession) which in their case was a "luxury" food source.
Here's where things flipped to a female run troop that was much more communal than the alpha male run system, not unlike our current society obsessed about getting the numbers. 😂
Brilliant! I agree, when both the male and the female use their whole brain, as you put it, we have well-balanced individuals. Thanks for the YouTube link. I will watch it now.
I love these conversations in the comments. It reminds me of the early Internet days where forums were full of curiosity!
Leonard Shlain who I posted Alphabet and the Goddess about also did a video on how things were different for human females regarding childbirth. Because it's more risky for humans, it became more of a choice than with mammals....
Check out Iain's post that I linked. He studied stories of brain damage to either hemisphere and the results of such damage. Turns out, damage to the right hemisphere leads to people having ridiculous logic and beliefs that they cannot tell is incorrect.
It's like someone with dementia who is adamant of something that doesn't match with reality.
"It's like someone with dementia who is adamant of something that doesn't match with reality." -- religious nutters spring to mind - if that's too unkind, anyone who is so damn sure they're right and everyone else is wrong.
Interesting. Love listening to McGilchrist and though I've never seen the series - it's now on my list.
"Why does society look up to and follow the limited view of number 1 over the big picture view of the hybrid? Why is number 1 in command?"
We've been pushed into that culturally - emphasis on the sciences, facts and stuff we can quantify while casting doubt on intuitive even imaginative - all that.
Think we're getting ready though, to see big changes there. Thanks.
Hey Rob (c137), well you know my view on the Battlestar Galactica reboot... a masterpiece for sure! (minus the constant saluting). This isn't a show for those who expect to be told "what to think". It is one of the most thought provoking series I've ever seen and most of the actors are brilliant. A person must be prepared to watch this series with their "brains turned on". (I believe that's why it never really "took off" when it was released) Everything from "vaccines", to cut-throat politics, to AI, to medical freedom, to "racism", to personal liberty, to bodily autonomy is included in this series and there are more parallels to our society than you or I could list on just a couple pages or a few comments. Thanks for writing about it from your point of view. :)
I saw the show when it came out but missed episodes as I was working different shifts at the time. This rewatch was an eye opener now as I know much more about things.
I prefer shows where the team faces the unknown without the home base. You mentioned Stargate Universe and there's another gem- Star Trek Voyager.
It's easier to be virtuous in SG1 and The Next Generation because they were still connected to society.
As for BSG...
When the president stopped her toxic cancer treatments, she was starting to get better and better. The doctor called that "rebound" as if getting better was not a sign of getting better 😂
Peer pressure unfortunately got her back on the toxic junk. 😢
I also found it interesting to see how Battlestar Pegasus became fascist as they kept isolated and afraid of the enemy. It reminds me of a certain genocidal ally today. The contrast between Pegasus and Galactica reminded me that society can be quite brutal in certain conditions, but it's not the default tendency.
https://robc137.substack.com/p/the-milgram-experiment-and-how-we
Thanks Rob some great points, I listened recently to the Iain McGilchrist, Mattias Desmet conversation. There were some great points that relate directly to your article. One on belief bias that struck me was, "The left brain is looking out for something it already knows it wants and what it is." and "The left hemisphere creates a map a diagram a theoretical structure, thin, sparse devoid of complexity, of anything that makes it live. The right hemisphere is seeing the whole complex picture."
"As soon as you start to think of the universe to be one big machine one big mechanical system, which can be understood, manipulated and controlled in a rational way. As soon as you consider the world to be a machine the logical ultimate consequence is that this big machine has to be led by technical experts. We will become totalitarian if we do not change our world view."
Great commentary, thank you Rob. The boundaries of self-perception and consciousness / unconsciousness are utterly fascinating. That binary paradigm appears done. Neuroscience shows that the act of conscious implementation - a motor action potential and muscle contraction - (underpinned as it must be by an awareness of a decision) is PRECEDED by a coterie of utterly UNCONSCIOUS, silent, underlying processes of evaluation and decision making. We act out decisions whose origin remains unconscious.
The understanding of 'conscious' and 'unconscious', with the former appearing as a visible tip of an iceberg leads one to wonder then, just how deep does an individual's perception of reality extend (given the individual variation appears gigantic).
The daily, healthy, usual requirement for useful interaction between individuals requires a mutual co-operative agreement of perceived reality, while the insatiable lust of tyranny to 'control' another's perception so tightly appears maniacal and pathological. Tyranny then, is the action of spiritual, intellectual and emotional pathology.
We're presently surrounded by a degrading pathology, which must ultimately seal its own fate and demise. A pity so many have to endure the misery, destitution and absence of happiness and prosperity (yet again) before we reach a collective threshold of elevated actualisation, a transcendence if you will.
As for BattleStar Galactica, I ordered the entire box set from Australia a couple of weeks ago. I have watched it piecemeal several years ago. For reasons best known to the universe, I wanted to study and appreciate the series again more closely. ;-)
Caprica was good too and helps understand the idea of AI in a more human manner than the fake AI we got today 😂.
Both of those shows are the possible future we would have been in if we had a cheap and easy energy source. Sometimes I feel that we were lucky that scientific progress hit limits on things.
"On the other side of the situation is the whole brain reality based view. The left brain processes the data and the right brain sees the big picture. Both sides are important for survival because together they help one see reality as it is, not as one wants it to be." That'd be the male/right -female/left energies...or did I get that backwards?
I'm not sure if we can label them with male or female.
When I read McGilchrist, it helped me see that it's not necessary female or male but by the ways of seeing things.
He mentioned how birds use their left eye to scan the environment for threats but used the right eye to have exact precision to peck at seeds without damaging their beaks.
In nature, both sides serve together in both sexes to survive.
However in "good n plenty" times, there has been cases where baboons dominated and everything was about their "getting the numbers" (left brained obsession) which in their case was a "luxury" food source.
Here's where things flipped to a female run troop that was much more communal than the alpha male run system, not unlike our current society obsessed about getting the numbers. 😂
https://youtube.com/watch?v=A4UMyTnlaMY
Brilliant! I agree, when both the male and the female use their whole brain, as you put it, we have well-balanced individuals. Thanks for the YouTube link. I will watch it now.
Love it! Nature has a way of correcting "her" creation.
I love these conversations in the comments. It reminds me of the early Internet days where forums were full of curiosity!
Leonard Shlain who I posted Alphabet and the Goddess about also did a video on how things were different for human females regarding childbirth. Because it's more risky for humans, it became more of a choice than with mammals....
Nature adapts to differing conditions through us.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dT6t39MDGhA
Left/Right brain has been questioned.
Check out Iain's post that I linked. He studied stories of brain damage to either hemisphere and the results of such damage. Turns out, damage to the right hemisphere leads to people having ridiculous logic and beliefs that they cannot tell is incorrect.
It's like someone with dementia who is adamant of something that doesn't match with reality.
The split brain experiments also showed this.
https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/roger-sperrys-split-brain-experiments-1959-1968-0
"It's like someone with dementia who is adamant of something that doesn't match with reality." -- religious nutters spring to mind - if that's too unkind, anyone who is so damn sure they're right and everyone else is wrong.
Thanks Rob. Science usually falls into a dichotomy. That looks like the period of Mkultra.
Yeah a lot of the experiments at the time were done haphazardly to come up with a conclusion that they wanted to believe.
https://robc137.substack.com/p/the-milgram-experiment-and-how-we